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Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:06 pm
by sk2107
Hello everybody
I used to do Usui Reiki for treatment which takes around 25 to 30 minutes .. now after getting attuned for kundalini Reiki 1 and 2 and felt its power , Is it ok give treatment with kundalini Reiki directly after the 25 minutes of Usui Reiki ?
you may ask why would I do that .. I've been working with Usui Reiki for some time and concentrating on the exact part which have the problem have almost a immidiate response , I found kundalini Reiki is more powerful specially when it comes to my self healing , but for other patients it takes some time , may be Iam wrong and it is because Iam new in kundalini Reiki healing. please anybody give me opinion
with lots of thanks
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:25 am
by sk2107
Hello everybody ,
Is my question is so difficult or so simple that nobody gives me a feed back
Iam still waiting
thanks
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:14 pm
by masooma27
Well at some level i still have this question too...
But with experience and working regularly with Reiki you kinda develop an intuition about which forms of Reiki to use and if we need to combine many within 1 session. Also there is no formal no-no on this...
I do combine various forms in one session and it seems to work for me... You should feel free to experiment.
Hope this helps,
Love
Masooma
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:24 pm
by John.Apostolidis
Hello
Sk2107 I have to say that there is no reason to worry about...
All Reiki systems have the same source and the same results as well...
although some systems are stronger than others and act faster than others...
but most of them have some differences between their techniques and usages.
But with experience and working regularly with Reiki you kinda develop an intuition about which forms of Reiki to use and if we need to combine many within 1 session. Also there is no formal no-no on this...
masooma is right...there is no limit in combinations
All healing modalities are tools to be used
For example in a usuall healing session I use these:
1) Ethereal Crystalls.
2) Usui Reiki
3) Kundalini Reiki where I feel that the flow is more strong and finally
4) Gold Reiki to shield the healee from negative energies etc.
And I have great results...
If there is a more serius case you can use more "tools" but finally I can say that you can heal someone with a one and only modality if you are practicing a lot and have faith to the energy...
I hope I helped a little...
Light and Joy
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:05 pm
by hotice_steve
Dear SK,
You have been wonderfully advised by Masooma & John. I fully endorse their words.
I am attuned to around 10 modalities. There are times when I use all.
Sometimes only my favourites.
It also depends on what type of issues I have to handle. If u ask again I will tell you the details. lOl !
I do use Usui Reiki & Ethereal Gem Reiki all the time. Currently I use Ayurveda Reiki too
There are subtle differences in the sensations & intensities of the Reiki Modalities. Each modality works on different frequencies of the Energy spectrum.
It will take some time for you to find the differences in each. Some are sensitive to a particular modality more. Also some modalities are very intense. some quick. some are consistently at same gentle level.
Your intuition will surely guide you.
I've been working with Usui Reiki for some time and concentrating on the exact part which have the problem have almost a immidiate response , I found kundalini Reiki is more powerful specially when it comes to my self healing , but for other patients it takes some time ,
I too feel same when doing distance Reiki using above modalities. Otherwise its as usual.
In the end let me tell you i have seen people doing miracles using only Usui Reiki, that too at level 1 & 2.
Usui Reiki 1 practitioners sending Distance Reiki too. Innocence & simplicity also can work wonders.
The Reiki World is full of amazing happenings. Enjoy it.
God Bless
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:12 am
by lola
hI fRIEND sk2107 ! Let me tell u what i experience, when i used usui reiki the healing time was longer than kundalini,
in distance healing i noticed that it seems as if the energy "don`t flow" sometimes, and sometimes it`s so much that i really need cold water for my hands...(this happened to me with both of them the difference is the intensity) in my experience the common thing was that when energy "not" flow it has to do with th person or situation that needs to keep it owns way to be resolved,(personal desicions, difficult or complex situations) so i search specifically how to send reiki, if i do so, generally i wait a little time, it depends.
when it has to do with phisical things and the energy not work, it feels as if i can`t simply send it,none,so i realised that the person has quite a few or a lot, doesn`t matter, unfinish problems or unresloved ones. so i send reiki to his/her spirit,emotional,mental body. Remember that what has been materalised (?sorry spelling) on the phisical body it has something background on other body.:mental emotional or spiritual. and i found that reiki works on that other level.
i also don`t follow a continous treatment i wait to see what happens to know what is the next step. i concentrate on the person and try to feel in my heart what does he/she/or the situation needs.
About which one to choose? experience both of them and combine them, just close your eyes and put yourself in touch with the person or situation, follow what comes to your mind, reiki is intelligent energy it`ll do what it is need it.
Hope to be helpfull.
LOVE AND LIGHT!!
Lola-Cecilia.
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:46 am
by sk2107
I am now certain from all the experience sharing had here that a person should follow his feeling .. funny thing happend with me after I was attuned for kundalini I , I had a backache at that time and when I tried my first self healing by kundalini reiki I dont my occur to my mind to imagine that Iam taking a bath and I had a though that sponge is rubbing the place pain , I really felt it on back as if it removing the pain .. since then Iam using this method for self healing .
Re: Using two types of Reiki in the same session
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:18 am
by hotice_steve
Thats the amazing thing about Reiki. No rules & you are free to experiment.
keep it up. Very happy with your progress
God bless
Re: Using two types of Reiki in the same session
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:20 pm
by John.Apostolidis
Hello
I would like to say something from Japanese martial arts culture which named Ninpo or Ninjutsu...
We all humans must have the "San shin no kokoro" in english "The heart of a three year old child"
Inocent thinking, open heart and open mind.This way we can always trust our inuition and get impressions from the universe to act right at each moment or situation of our, lives...
We can have this phrase always in mind for all of our actions and at healing sessions too,as it is said many times in the THC the universal life force has its own inteligence....so let it flow freely!
Light and Joy
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 10:46 pm
by gaid39
hello all friend
Using one or 100 reiki based modalities in the same time in healing session,this doesn't change things since the power of healing is in the healer him self and not in the modality/ies he use.If the modality canalize the healing energy ,so where is the healer? He is absent.
The modality/ies are ,in fact,in the service of the healer.They are gifts from the Source not only thehealer use them but to empower him too.The healer is the real healing power canal served and strenghthened by the Source via the modality/ies .So, a healer with one madality can be better than another healer with 100 modalites. the question is not in accumulating modalities to be good healer but in how do we master and achieve the secret of using this one or these all modalities in the service of our healing power.This path comes little by little through good meditation and good work of exploration.
Are true what said,steven and white_light_ki and the other friend .Each modality have such special frequence and affinity differ from the other modality.And the same modality can be sensed and felt different between two healers or more.
Me ,for example ,I found Ayurveda-reiki very strong and powerful in healing some cases of psychic attacks though i have not asked the help from guides or lords or any..but only the SOURCE from him emanates the healing energy .2 mns after activating ayurveda I can hear some times the black psychic entity cries via the voice of the patient and speak another language i have never heard about it before.Some times I don't pay attention to the strange speaking of the entity/ies and continue the healing session untill its end,and some times I ordered the entity vocally to speak in the patient language .the entity obeyes to the order because it is inside the white fire of ayurveda. Perhaps other healers don't make the difference between ayerveda reiki and the other modalities.So, the attunement in the master level of any modality is only the first step of the path to the light and the truth.
ALLAH,LIGHT AND LOVE BLESS YOU ALL
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:32 am
by John.Apostolidis
Hello dear Gaid
I have to agree with you to the most of your sayings because you are absolutely right
but let me disagree to one point where you say this:
this doesn't change things since the power of healing is in the healer him self and not in the modality/ies he use.If the modality canalize the healing energy ,so where is the healer? He is absent.
It is right that modalities are only tools like symbols and nothing more and that even with one and only modality some healers does amazing meracles....but...
The Reiki principles sais that the Reiki practitioners/healers are only channels and the positive results of the healing sessions are not cause of them but because of Reiki.The healer does not do nothing his/her self but the source does.A practitioner can become better and better healer after lots of practice and healing sessions because with those procedures the channels and chakras become wider and stronger which has as an effect to have stronger flow and better and faster results...
We are only plugs nothing more to be proud for....it is not a charisma it is a gift from the source as you rightly said!
In the case that the healing result depends only from the ability of the healer it use to be at non Reiki modalities and systems like bioenergy healers where the given energy trully comes from healers apothems.So in this case the much more pure and strong is the colected bioenergy the better the result to the healee...
I am looking forward for your comments.
How is your dear wife,please inform us about her I will be really pleased to hear that she became better..
Light and Joy blessings and wishess
Re: Using two types of Reiki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:23 am
by hotice_steve
Dear John & Khalifa,
There is a contradiction to previous ideas of ownself by Khalifa , maybe its an error of language or word use. He must have meant otherwise.......
this doesn't change things since the power of healing is in the healer him self and not in the modality/ties he use
did get the point what he actually meant.
By the way you make interesting points about Ayurveda Reiki.
I use it everyday since I was attuned to it. helped to clear deep seated blocks that were pending since years. The attunement itself did wonders.
God bless......
Re: Using two types of rieki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:30 pm
by gaid39
Hello friends, you are all wonderful
This is a problem due to my English which is not enough good and my few lexique in this language.
When I said “this doesn't change things since the power of healing is in the healer him self and not in the modality/ies he use. If the modality canalize the healing energy ,so where is the healer? He is absent.”
This paragraph is well explained in the same text by the following “The healer is the real healing power canal ( I say a canal )served(given a service) and strengthened by the Source via the modality/ies “ see well the meaning of this paragraph. That is to say that the healing power comes from the Source to the healer( who is a healing canal) through modality/ies attunements or without attunements done by another ,as the case in self attunement done consciously or attunements done unconsciously because the Source can do it in the highest good of the person. Those who are born with paranormal abilities or detect later naturally these abilities are examples.
Of course, the bio-energetic or bio- magnetic practitioners and some Yogis use their own healing power. After healing sessions they need to rest for moments in order to recharge their healing power. But in reiki the healer canalizes reiki energy which is universal .
So, the real healer is an ENERGY HEALING CANAL strengthened and empowered by the Source via modalities attunements. These latter ones are bases to the healer power that continues to be developped and to be stronger along the life of the healer.
A REAL HEALER is a combination of himself (the healer) plus all energy healing modalities he is attuned to, plus the healing power explored and strengthened through meditation, and later ,plus the secret key to enter directly to the heavens where the healing powers of the Source are infinite and unlimited. This is in my view point the Real Healer.
We can call the healers who manage successfully to heal patients as “Good or very good healers” but not Real healers.
For example when we make a harmful black entity left the body of an psychic attacked person, normally the healing process must not stop here. We have to continue to heal the entity itself, to stop it from harming or entering again other bodies or further more, we ask this entity to show us its gang and how many entities form its group and how many the persons attacked by its group, their names and addresses so that these persons may be healed by us, and more than that ,we order the entity to take our messages to the chief of the group to leave these human bodies before they will be burnt in the fire of the light. etc...
Because of my English, a foreign language not mastered well by me, Excuse me for mistakes in writing and in expressing the meaning. I try to minimize and limit my contribution in the forum to avoid misunderstandings.
ALLAH,LIGHT and LOVE bless you all
Re: Using two types of Reiki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:48 pm
by hotice_steve
Dear Khalifa,
No problem.
There are bound to be mistakes in a forum. Anybody can make them. Do post whenever you feel. Don't hold back. We need contributions from active healers like you. There is so much to learn.
If there are misunderstandings I think we all are civilized enough to handle them with love & understanding.
Potentially we all have equal healing abilities. There are Good Healers & there are not so Good Healers. But once the ego factor starts developing even the best of them stagnate & become useless.
I was once told by a Reiki Master, "You may give it all(Reiki). But it still depends on how much is accepted. Eventually it will work, but not before teaching the Healer & Healee a thing or two".
God Bless
Re: Using two types of Reiki in the same session
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:44 pm
by John.Apostolidis
Dear Gaid you are a wonderfull healer and person as well
Please accept my apologie I understood that the fault was mine
I read with interest all your posts you have helped me somehow...
We are all healers,we are all Masters in one or many modalities,we are Teachers too some of us but first of all we are all STUDENTS of life and of each other!
Thank you!
Light and Joy Blessings and Wishes
Namaste